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Posts by Nyanpasu
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When you ban 10 , 50 more come.
When you take down domain , 5 min after another one is made with the exact content in it with a different name.
When you make custom filter , they always find a way to bypass it ~
When you add more control in registration and in game verification they find more way to bypass it too..
There is actually nothing to do :' )
Since bots/gold sellers are a thing , no one so far did find the best solution to it ~
Some make a lot of control behind email / captcha , ingame verification and such but in the end they are always in and working actively even if you don't see any of them spam chat in certains mmo..
You don't really need bot chat spam tbh , if someone want gold he just type " Name of the game - Gold " in google.
Like many people said , hunting bots is pointless since the owner of them will spam them as much as he can.
Kill the source , and you're fine but it look like it's also even harder than taking bots down it seems and too much effort prolly.
Your best option > Block them and live with it
I'm kinda used to it so it doesn't bother me that much.
It also don't make my gold income decrease that much , even if it does sometime i still farm and get a nice amount daily so.. -
Just use the tool as many people do actually and you are fine ~ I guess
Gameforge won't do anything about that , the hype of the game is going down i doubt they wanna ban their entire player base for that and rather keep them ~ ( And it doesn't give any advantage so why not.. oh , well maybe pvp'ers will complain but pvp is dead here so who care )
I play on a 40' screen 3840x2160 It's unplayable , even if i get used to it before , fight a big boss in a tiny room or corner and tadaaa you see nothing . -
Wipe ? Chargeback, done bye kek
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baaaaah.... whatever :' ) I 'm done i guess.
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Nyanpasu Well technically you could make it free 2 play, on the upgrade limit reducers too. You get 3 from side quests as you level up to 55, and you can send them from your alts to your main through the bank. It's a lot more grinding, but it is possible.
P.S. I love your signature
Yup i know already about that , you can farm a lof of things with alt at the 1st town and send them to your Main ( Grutin , respawner , Anti-Destruction etc.. ) But as i said , it's kinda dumb to do that... and prolly gameforge will fix it ~
This is not how you should have to farm that .
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Define "anywhere." Do you need a +8 or +9 to do current or even future content? I can understand that having an upgrade limit is pretty stupid, but to say that you need to pay to get "anywhere" is just as bad, in this specific case at least.
I feel like if they make resets cheaper in the cash shop and make them auctionable (if they're not already), then it becomes the same as other games with enhancements. Except in here the items is used to reset enhancements, instead of an item that prevents your item from resetting to +0 like in closers/dfo/elshit. That goes back to the issue of how much of a shit the current cash shop is atm tho.
man.. you keep saying it's not needed to do a +8-+9.. It's not about that at all !
We don't need , we know we don't need to go that far but stop repeat that...
It's about what you need to achieve to get there aka " PAY " to +9 or make stupid tricks like make/delete alts ~
If you don't wanna aim for end-game gear maxed that's your problem dude, but think about those who have the will to max everything as a goal. -
In Bns , whatever you do , you have the choice to stay f2p or go full ham on Trove.
Here you are kinda " forced " to add some cash if you don't want to struggle on a weap with 25/25 try locked ~Than how about we suggest adding those Upgrade-Resets to the Grutin-Shop for..let's say 1000 Grutin-Gold? Since you can farm Grutin-Coins off the random Spawns now it would make the procedure technically f2p but since it's still gonna take days to get those coins, there is enough of an incentive to buy it. Or you just level 3 new characters per week and trade the resets over to your main.
I don't know the exact chances but I'm used to 100-150€ for a maxed weapon so it doesn't seem too bad from my perspective. I'm just glad you don't need to go past +6 atm for anything, unlike a certain other game I've played where they started to balance the new content around the max-upgrade because some tryhards where complaining, that everything is so easy having maxed gear.
what if you currently play alts , you don't have enough slot to do that tricks ~ + you have to wait 24h to delete your char..
1000 Grutin is kinda high but doable , at least you have something to farm to get them , instead of swiping your card.
I'm not f2p i did use a lot of cash in many mmo's , for cosmetic / some nice boost + rng box etc.. while farming a lot too since i can play around 10-15+ hours a day or more sometime.
I'm kinda used to that kind of things ~ But pay to unlock is something new to me :' )
Most mmo have a " f2p" way , ofc it take waaaaay more time and a lot of hours of farm daily , with a p2w way also but at least you have the choice , here you don't. -
Pretty sure you can get 6~ of those upgrade thingies from quests, but it's going to take like.... 5 days to get 6?
I remember i had around 5-6 of them just by playing/questing yeah
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Anyway ~ The end of that is , you must pay to upgrade , that's all.
For me , it's just a bad option , if people will to pay 500 buck to finally reach a full set + 9 that's fine , but for me it's a no.
Maybe you are fine with a +4 set , and it's true you don't need more than that to clean everything without a prob.
It's just sad to pay for that to get more, that's my point. -
Gotta love people who got RNG carried to +8 complaining about +9 when luck catches up to them
By luck you mean.. after 10 Strengh expension ticket maybe ? :' )
There is always that guy who gonna upgrade to +9 with GOD luck from nowhere , or with a nice wallet. Kappa -
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I'm used to play Blade & soul , there is no enhance rate / fail or downgrade there but you have to farm a lot to get what you want and it might be painful at some level BUT you can freely upgrade it , even a F2p can ( while whale can one shot it with p2w event ) this way it look fair.
The main problem here , and i think many people don't get it since i made this post.. is the limit coupled with the really low rate.
Make it freely upgradable and this would be fair since we can actually fail/destroy our gear.
Ofc get a +9 shouldn't be easy , that's not what i want , but we kinda have to spend a lof of cash to make it at that level and this the point i wanna point out. ( And it's ONLY for the weapon , imagine doing it for your 4 others gears :> )Thing is, to get the type of upgrades that really matter (Raven 6+/Aransu) you're gonna have to spend months grinding, orrrrr you can just spend a couple hundreds on trove whenever it comes around. This game is the same in the sense that you can probably spend months grinding for the money/materials to upgrade, orrrrrr you can just spend a couple hundreds in the cash shop to get it faster. It's the same thing.
Like I said I can understand why the upgrade limits might look bad, but my reasoning is that the tradeoff is when you fail upgrading, your weapon doesn't reset. The chance of your weapon actually breaking passed the safe upgrade level is pretty low (in other games most people don't even try to go passed the safe level without protection tickets).
I guess if you take things like weapon upgrade chips in to consideration that inflates the price a lot, but I feel like at that level you're just paying for convenience or bragging rights. It's like the difference between getting a regular car just to get you from point A to point B and buying a lambo or something similar to do the same exact thing, just fancier/faster.
I'm not capped yet so I can't say for sure, but you probably don't need a +8 or +9 to do the current content, the same way you don't need Aransu 6 in BnS (at least from the last time I remember) to do raids or f8 dungeons. Or the same way you don't need a +15 weapon in closers/DFO to do tiamat/Luke raids. Or the same way you don't need a Lambo for your day-to-day commute.
Now if the prices of the things in the cash shop were a bit better, then I'd say it's perfectly fine, but I think it's like $10/$20 to get that item to reset the number of maximum upgrades? But that's for another thread.
In Bns , whatever you do , you have the choice to stay f2p or go full ham on Trove.
Here you are kinda " forced " to add some cash if you don't want to struggle on a weap with 25/25 try locked ~
Get it ?
Also , it's not because " It's not needed for the current content " that mean we must stay at +4- +6 i mean what the point to have gear if you don't enhance them if you can :' )The true end-game.
Where my Black Desert players at XD.
For me True end-game =/= forced to add cash to Unlock/upgrade/max gear , or maybe i'm wrong.
it's totaly crazy to be honest, i did from +0 to +8 in 16 try, and tried about 76 FUCKING TIME to enhance +9, how can we have so low chance to this? seriously this make me crazy af , wasted so many materials for nothing, hope they gonna rework the success rate because it's clearly insane
Ikr! same shit happens to me ~ +6 goes really fast , 7-8 took me really a few try and now while i answer here i'm at my 37th try ~
There is no luck in that , +9 rate is totally fucked.
It look like ( just an example , im not saying they are the actual rate ~ ) +6-7-8 might be 15-10-5% and then there is +9 at 0.0001% , the f*ck lol -
If I recall from another thread correctly, it was something like 1.8-1.9mil per upgrade for the lv 55?
Or maybe they were referencing the entire Plus up as a whole.
It is actually , as i said it's around 550-600k a weapon upgrade chip and you need 3of them + 120k dzenai .
So in the end for each try you pay 1.6mil to 2mil according to the price of those chip.
But money isn't the problem , once you hit 55 , farm ep4 ark ship/Acheron or Raid is a good source of money actually ~
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Who knew trying to get the highest upgrades possible in the game was so hard?
This is the first time I've seen people complaining that it's hard to get the equivalent of +15 in other games. I mean, like, no shit? (not directed towards the OP)
The only argument I can understand is that there is a limit to how many chances you get to upgrade, but I feel like it balances with the fact that upgrades in here at the moment are much much muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch larger bonuses than other games. Just going from +4 to +5 in here is a bigger damage increase than going from +10 to +11 in closers, or maybe even +11 to +12.
It might also be because that upgrading here don't reset your gear to +0. Most other games if you fail, you're going back 2-3 upgrade levels, or back to 0 completely.
Besides that I think you can say the upgrade cost compared to the stat increase you gain. For example like I mentioned before, going +4 to +5 in here is a larger increase than +10 to +11 in Closers, but it doesn't really cost much per upgrade. I think it cost me 87k per upgrade on my lvl 40 weapon so it might be 120-140k per upgrade on a level 55 weapon? But apparently you can make many times that per day farming at cap. It doesn't really seem like that bad.
I can understand that the maximum upgrade chances looks really shitty, but for what you can gain for it, I feel like it balances off pretty well. I'd definitely take that over getting my weapon reset to +0, or breaking the moment I try to upgrade passed the safe level.
I'm used to play Blade & soul , there is no enhance rate / fail or downgrade there but you have to farm a lot to get what you want and it might be painful at some level BUT you can freely upgrade it , even a F2p can but gonna take longer than someone who gonna spam shop ofc.
The main problem here , and i think many people don't get it since i made this post.. is the limit coupled with the really low rate.
Make it freely upgradable and this would be fair since we can actually fail/destroy our gear.
Ofc get a +9 shouldn't be easy , that's not what i want , but we kinda have to spend a lof of cash to make it at that level and this the point i wanna point out. ( And it's ONLY for the weapon , imagine doing it for your 4 others gears :> ) -
I kinda don't really care about gear enhance rates. The top level of enhancements have always been an enormous time and money sink across MMOs. If it was easy to obtain +7, +8, or +9, then it would stop being an accomplishment.
An accomplishment should not be achieved with the cash shop ~
Without limit it would be more fair. -
The problem would not be so bad if the weapon was upgradable without limit ~
I wouldn't complain if it was really 1% tbh , as long as i can upgrade my weap freely without spend 10 euro to unlock 5+ try each time i reach the limit :' )
Pay 2 upgrade , is kinda a shame. -
It's Sh1t RNG. I failed over 60 times from +6 to +7. I know people who failed 100+ times from +8 to +9. Also know people who went from +6 to +9 with less than 5 fails. It's a stupid system that's supposed to squeeze as much money from impatient people as possible.
Yeah i noticed that ~ I did +7 to +8 with 4 try while i did around 15+ for +6 to +7 and now i'm at 27 try to +9.
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I wish +8 was fast. I've failed 20 times already trying to go from +7 to +8. Teach me your ways Nyanpasu-senpai.
You each time you press nyanpasu, you'll get 0.1% extra success rate at enhancing.
haha nice one :' ) *nyanpasu intensifies*
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I know right i will get something like 2300+ in atk , it's not a lil upgrade tho ~
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Are you new to MMOs?
The top tier enchant rate is never good in any MMO ever. On average its estimated to be 100 tries to get from 4 to 9. If you got to 8 quickly youre just incredibly lucky.
Doubt i'm new.. but thank you for the joke sir' :' )
mfw people struggling to get the highest enhancement level in the game wondering why it's so hard
My complain is not about how " hard " it is... Just asking if it's normal , or anyone experienced that here actually.
6-8 look fast to make , while +9 seems really low , like REALLY.